Sandane ENSD Norway Approach ... WT Heck ?

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GL_64
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Sandane ENSD Norway Approach ... WT Heck ?

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Can someone explain this chart to me.

https://ibb.co/WvgkRz7

TreeTops
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Re: Sandane ENSD Norway Approach ... WT Heck ?

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I will leave the finer points to those with actual IFR training but I will attempt to strip out the basics for you to think about.

Top right of the chart shows a 10nm ring from STG with minimum heights 6600 to the west and 7900 to the east.

If you are flying with GPS and RNAV capable autopilot, you would fly direct to GIGMU or OGDIT, minimum 6800ft to ITVAK, descend to 6000ft, which will bring you to the final approach fix at D10.2

If you are flying with instruments, you would fly to Stegen STG 369 tuned on the ADF, minimum 6000ft.
If, as it seems from your pic, you are flying via Anda AD 288 tuned on the ADF, you would proceed to STG and then fly 040 from STG for 1 minute, then a standard rate turn to the right to intercept the localiser 108.3 on 250 deg. This will bring you to the final approach fix at D10.2.

From D10.2 you will need to follow the 'Gnd speed-Kts' chart near the bottom left and match your aircraft speed with a constant descent rate. This is critical in a steep slope approach 5.4deg such as this one. eg 100 knots descending at 957 fpm. (Most approaches are 3 deg as standard).
At D7.0 you can verify your progress by checking the altitude of 4170ft. Make adjustments to speed and/or descent rate if correction is required.
Continue down to MDA (minimum decision altitude) which is set but the bottom section of the chart and depends on aircraft climb rate capability and also ground speed.

If the airport can be seen at or before D1.9 and at no lower than the MDA, landing can be continued, otherwise execute a missed approach.

Missed approach is described up near the top of the chart and show with indicators near the bottom right. The missed approach will bring you back to STG and the holding pattern.

To set up the radios prior to arrival.
ADF standby 369 STG
ADF 288 AD
VOR 108.3 AD
HSI Course 250
Also decide on the MDA and speed/descent rate prior to arrival.
Cheers
Trev

GL_64
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Re: Sandane ENSD Norway Approach ... WT Heck ?

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Thnx fir that. I'll study it later and a few approaches.

The most complicated one I've seen. No wonder people moan about Sandane.

I assume the opposite app: 08 RNav, is straight in from AD288 ? ...That was the app I actually did and there wasn't much room !

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Re: Sandane ENSD Norway Approach ... WT Heck ?

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AD288 is actually right over the airfield and is called a Locator, which acts the same as an NDB.
To land on RWY 08 using this chart you will approach the same as RWY26 using the localiser, but at the MDA break off to the right and perform a left traffic pattern around and land on 08.
Read the text in the white box on the map. At the airport are guidance lights to help with the traffic pattern. I don't know if MFSF airport has these.
Circle to land information is found at the bottom right of the chart.
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Trev

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AKar
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Re: Sandane ENSD Norway Approach ... WT Heck ?

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TreeTops wrote:
25 Jul 2023, 21:55
If you are flying with GPS and RNAV capable autopilot, you would fly direct to GIGMU or OGDIT, minimum 6800ft to ITVAK, descend to 6000ft, which will bring you to the final approach fix at D10.2
Just a small mandatory nitpick on the equipment side, the (very standard) RNAV 1 requirement for the RNAV transitions carries no implicit requirement for an autopilot. You'd only need just about any modernish IFR-certified GPS box. :)

It does not matter in the simulator, but as a distantly related story, there are some ILS approaches out there with only GNSS transitions from the enroute available. (In the one we are discussing here, there is an ADF/DME-based option - the one that OP probably finds the confusing part.) In such situations, in case the GPS was lost, say, due to interference, it is possible to end up into situation where you could, in layman's terms, fly the approach itself perfectly fine but cannot transition into it, due to requirement of having GNSS.

-Esa

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Re: Sandane ENSD Norway Approach ... WT Heck ?

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That's true. Hand flying is perfectly fine so long as there is GPS guidance to the fixes.
Cheers
Trev

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